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Marketing GroupWise 8!

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25 September 2008 - 10:18pm
Submitted by: dlythgoe

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Hello.

My name's Wendy Steinle and I'm the director of marketing for Novell's End User Computing solutions and products. My friend Dean thought you all would appreciate getting a sneak peak at some of our marketing objectives, strategies and plans for making the upcoming release of Novell GroupWise a hit in the market.

Let me first say that if the cool and quality factors of the technology alone could drive market success, I believe we would be at the top already! The GroupWise engineering team is expert at understanding and observing human needs and behavior; they truly have delivered a product that is uniquely capable to think and work like each person (I promise Dean didn't pay me to say that.)

Alas, technology alone can't create market success – and that's where the GroupWise marketing team comes in! Our job is to build awareness, generate sales leads and enable our direct and partner sales teams to solve customers' workforce productivity challenges with collaboration tools that deliver next-generation innovations, interoperability with other IT choices and compelling total-cost-of-ownership. (ehhemm...a little blatant GroupWise messaging there...)

Starting from the top, our objectives for awareness center around generating mindshare with and through industry press and analysts, generating discussion in relevant blogs and driving interested people to our Web site. Lead generation objectives center around downloads of our open beta release, generating sales leads to pass to our partners and creating opportunities to have a direct conversation with customers and other interested parties. Now, “enablement” (a fluffy marketing way of saying “teach,” “learn,” “know what the heck you are doing!”) objectives for the GroupWise launch focus on ensuring proper depth of sales and technical training for partners at the right time so they are ready to talk with their customers about how GroupWise can help them be more productive.

Our strategies are simple: Take our excitement and confidence out to the market, create a discussion between IT and business, and build awareness for our partners. (Oh, and while we have you and your organizations in mind first as we design marketing activities, we are also taking GroupWise straight to new customer audiences as well.) We have an exciting line-up of activities planned that leverage these strategies and are aimed at collectively helping our customers and Novell achieve their objectives with and for GroupWise. Here are some of the highlights:

● Free training promotion – share GroupWise Story and receive access to both Technical and End-User training for FREE
● Executive-to-Executive Movie Mailer – Novell executives send a video highlight DVD to top customers showing how the innovations in GroupWise 8 help executives be more productive
● Multi-city Collaboration Partner Tour - Novell is the main sponsor of the GWAVA Partner Tour, along with NotifyLink and GroupLink
● Customer and Partner Briefings held in conjunction with two tradeshows in EMEA: GWAVACon and Burton Catalyst
● Ongoing print ads, CIO roundtables, videos, customer success stories, web seminar series, blogs, podcasts, whitepapers, etc. on GroupWise, Collaboration and Unified Communications (see sample web site resources)
● GroupWise 20th Birthday Party Celebrations along the road to BrainShare SLC in 2009

Later this fall I'll ask Dean if I can pop in on his blog again with details about additional activities you may find useful. Meanwhile, whether your interest is administrator or end-user training, simply understanding what's new in GroupWise 8, what 3rd-party integrations are available or how you can help your CEO “get” the value of GroupWise, please check back at the GroupWise Web page at www.novell.com/groupwise for the latest.

Thanks for your interest in GroupWise and in what we marketing people are up to as we take our passion for this product out in to the market to help drive its success!


Disclaimer: As with everything else at Cool Solutions, this content is definitely not supported by Novell (so don't even think of calling Support if you try something and it blows up).

It was contributed by a community member and is published "as is." It seems to have worked for at least one person, and might work for you. But please be sure to test, test, test before you do anything drastic with it.




User Comments

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GroupWise Marketing doing well

Submitted by richardbliss on 26 September 2008 - 12:09am.

It has become obvious over the past two years that Novell Marketing today is far superior to the marketing done in the past. This is an excellent post and a great way for those of us in the community to know what is happening and to see a lot more of the bigger picture about what is happening around GroupWise.

Thanks Wendy for taking the time and letting us sit in virtually on your marketing team.

Richard Bliss
gwbliss.blogspot.com

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Thanks Back at You

Submitted by wsteinle (no verificado) on 26 September 2008 - 11:18am.

My pleasure, Richard. Thank you for all of your support and passion for GroupWise! And especially thank you for your leadership of the currently-running GWAVA Collaboration Tour, which Novell is sponsoring. It's providing a great opportunity for people to hear the latest about GroupWise and some critical complementary partner components and integrations. I mentioned this tour in my original post but here again is where people can go to register to attend.

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marketing against Outlook/Exchange

Submitted by jmarton on 29 September 2008 - 6:08am.

Novell currently has a page comparing the features of GroupWise 6, 6.5, 7, and 8. This is useful for existing customers running older versions who are trying to determine why they should upgrade. However this doesn't help existing customers who are being pressured to migrate to Outlook/Exchange, or potential new customers trying to determine if they should implement GroupWise. I've seen posts in Novell's forums and in the ngwlist from people asking if there is any information out there comparing GroupWise to Outlook/Exchange. Unfortunately there's no good resource for this information. Ideally the existing compare page (http://www.novell.com/products/groupwise/compare.html) should be updated adding another tab with this information or possibly replacing the text on the existing "competitive" tab with this more useful feature comparison with Outlook/Exchange. With a good resource available at Novell's site comparing GroupWise 8 to Exchange 2007 (with Outlook 2007) would go a long way towards retaining existing customers as well as bring on new customers.

Joe Marton

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Yes ! that would be helpful

Submitted by anonymous (no verificado) on 6 October 2008 - 4:16am.

high

actually, my company is thinking about turning to microsoft and i need every good argument ! also for OS and other products like zenworks.

thanks

Sascha

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I second that

Submitted by anonymous (no verificado) on 6 October 2008 - 6:53am.

When trying to convince people to switch from Outlook/Exchange to Groupwise it would be nice to have a feature comparison matrix. I've learned that those are some of the best selling techniques. White papers and tech docs don't do a thing for upper management (other than put them to sleep).

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I second this too...

Submitted by anonymous (no verificado) on 7 October 2008 - 5:55am.

Face it, Outlook/Exchange is your biggest competitor. The Novell community in particular and others in general would benefit from this Competitive Comparison.

Rene.

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This is a great idea!

Submitted by ketter on 7 October 2008 - 6:44am.

This is a great idea! Someone at Novell should be able to compile a comparison like this.

KeN

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List of features comparing Outlook/Exchange and GroupWise 8

Submitted by mgorn on 7 October 2008 - 12:32pm.

Yeah, I think it would be really helpful if Novell provided a matrix comparing features of Outlook/Exchange and GroupWise. Can someone make that happen?

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a comparison GW7 / GW8 to EX2007 would be great!!!

Submitted by pitnika on 10 October 2008 - 7:15am.

i would really appreciate it if there would be a chart with a comparison =D like this one
http://www.novell.com/de-de/products/groupwise/com...

Thus it would be easier for us to convince our customers to use GW instead of *%&§" outlook...
Hopefully & cheering
Pitnika

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Default to http://www.novell.com/de-de/products/groupwise/com

Submitted by jimmyt on 1 February 2009 - 12:28am.

Hi,

After visiting the above site, everytime I would go to the http://www.novell.com (english site) it would always redirect me to http://www.novell.com/de-de/PH/home/index.html. Can anyone advise what I should do to revert back to Novell english site. I'm using Firefox 3.0.5. Everything is ok with IE 7.0.

Tks,

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how to get back to English version of Novell's site

Submitted by jmarton on 19 February 2009 - 7:15pm.

In Firefox, to go Tools->Options->Privacy->Show Cookies. Delete all novell.com cookies and you should be fine.

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I agree with that!

Submitted by anonymous (no verificado) on 7 October 2008 - 8:28am.

And it has an additionnal goodie: translating is very simple and quick for non-english fluent people...

Philippe Delval

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Translation

Submitted by nickho on 13 October 2008 - 1:47pm.

Hi,

I ran the page over Babelfish.
http://tinyurl.com/3nprnw

Translate well - minor adjustments to translation needed

Also Google Translate
http://tinyurl.com/54lvua

Translate better on Google - able to understand technobable better

Nick

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Give the POP version of the client away FREE

Submitted by Anonymous on 30 September 2008 - 3:47pm.

Build some grassroots support.

Just as PC's were brought into the environement by renegade users tired of dealing with the glass house, GW could also storm the walls if enough users had experience with it.

Let's face it, Outlook is the default standard only because it came with people's PC's, no one every went out and paid for it.

People liked what they saw and demanded the same capabilities of their office client.

There are a lot of good, but not great mail clients out there. None that could compare to GW.

Seed the minds of millions, it costs you nothing but electrons.

H. O'Neill
Chicago

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POP version *is* free

Submitted by Anonymous on 1 October 2008 - 3:12pm.

GroupWise is licensed by the mailbox, not by the client. You can freely use the GroupWise client today as a standalone POP/IMAP client and as a newsreader.

Read more about it here.

http://www.gwcheck.com/wpml/?p=662

Joe

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POP version free

Submitted by Anonymous on 2 October 2008 - 10:12am.

I know that it's free. The comment was made as a suggestion that Novell should take the steps to get it into the hands of millions of users to foster a demand for it. Maybe they should become the New Millenium version of the "AOL" floppy in the mail.

-H

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Perhaps people in the GW

Submitted by anonymous (no verificado) on 3 October 2008 - 9:53am.

Perhaps people in the GW Community know it's free, but the average 'Joe' has no concept of Novell or what GW, how are they supposed to know that you can get it for free?
Wendy's post lists a number of marketing strategies, however, most are directed at current customers. While I agree with addressing the current crowd, what GW and Novell really needs is NEW customers. The marketing team should be waving their Novell flag everywhere and saying 'We're Novell! Look at what we can do! This is how we are better than the other guy! These are our products...' They need to be educating potential customers on their products and strengths.
The seeding idea is not a bad one .. the problem right now is the lack public awareness that GW is out there

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Re: GroupWise @ Home...

Submitted by dlythgoe on 23 October 2008 - 5:39am.

Novell is working with our partners to see what possibilities exist to deliver something like this to the community. I think some of the sticking points have to do with support. If the GW community can come together and offer support and technical expertise, we believe that some joint work between several of our partners and community members will be able to provide a solution. Then we will deal with a few legal issues - I am sure - but this is a very interesting request and one we hear more and more., See the survey done by GroupWiseR and you will see other interested parties.

Dean

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Found a comparison GW/Outlook/Entourage/Eudora on-line

Submitted by anonymous (no verificado) on 7 October 2008 - 7:02am.

I found the following on-line comparing GW / Outlook / Entourage and Eudora clients, now it only mentions GW6.5 client, but at the end there is a special mention about GroupWise.

http://www.mcg.edu/itss/help/email/compare.htm

Besides I would like to see Novell come up with a comparison as well, as we are already on the defensive about why we don't move to Exchange. Now I do mention to people that first of all "I do not have shares in Novell, but at anytime in the last 10 years have you lost e-mails or have had no access to e-mail for more than 1 hour (not due to technical / hardware issues". Each time people cannot answer this question, keeps them quiet for awhile. But then the question comes up again. I have also given people the report on the cost of running an exchange environment as well that Gregg so kindly wrote, that keeps people quiet again for a little while.

That's my 2 cents.

Thanks for listening.
...Karen

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I hear you!

Submitted by wsteinle on 13 October 2008 - 10:52am.

Hi -- this is Wendy Steinle again -- I want to let you all know that I hear your call for competitive information and I want to let you know that we are working on this. Your input is very helpful, as we're in the process of defining what we need to produce.

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Thanks!

Submitted by jmarton on 16 October 2008 - 6:03am.

Thanks Wendy, I think everyone who has commented here along with many other customers would very much appreciate some competitive information!

Joe

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Doen anyone know if GE8 Client can "talk" to Lotus Domino?

Submitted by ronnys on 7 October 2008 - 11:32pm.

Hi!
We must use Lotus Notes av mail/calender. This is not my choice!
But the Notes Client is a horrible slow packages.
Outlook do have a plugin for Notes, so du GW8 Client have a way to connect to Notes/Domino?

Ronny
Narvik - Norway

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GW8 can't really talk to Notes

Submitted by jmarton on 9 October 2008 - 10:41am.

You could connect to Notes using the GroupWise client via POP/IMAP for e-mail, but you're not going to get calendar, contacts, etc. As far as I know there isn't any sort of "plugin" or "connector" for GroupWise to get it to talk to Notes, nor do I expect one will be coming any time soon. But feel free to make an enhancement request.

http://support.novell.com/enhancement

Joe

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Notes Plugin

Submitted by anonymous (no verificado) on 6 November 2008 - 3:11am.

I would love to see a plugin for Notes for communicating with Groupwise.

I'll keep checking back.

Julie

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Evolution and GroupWise

Submitted by Anonymous on 15 November 2008 - 4:56am.

What irritates me is that Novell markets Evolution as well as GroupWise
see
http://www.novell.com/products/openworkgroupsuite/...

It's not as if Novell can afford to do this. Companies such as Postpath(Cisco), Zimbra (Yahoo), Scalix, Google etc all making ground. For Novell to market two email systems, while the flagship email system is suffering does not make sense.

Personally I would have liked to have seen the Hula project continue and grow and have "new technology/ideas" developed outside of Novell.

The only way for GroupWise to grow is to appeal to its market outside it's current base and this will involve getting outside involvement/feedback. . I thought Hula would have been a good conduit for this to happen.

Zimbra is a great example of how an Opensource project is a catalyst to make fantastic ground on the market. (It's worth $350Million to Yahoo) To reach outside, get community involvement and to "enrol" the market - isn't this the best web2.0 strategy??? Maybe a genuine revisit (using a true web2.0 approach) to this strategy might be a good idea.

NickHo
(Thanks Dean for being one of the only true bloggers in Novell - a right step in becoming a web2.0 company)

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Re: Evolution and GroupWise

Submitted by dlythgoe on 20 November 2008 - 6:51am.

Thanks for your comments NickHo. I am not always the first one to defend Novell Marketing, but I do have to say I am very impressed with what they have planned for GroupWise 8. I find it fascinating that so many people on these forums, blogs and discussions complain quite a bit about Marketing and then the at the first sign of some marketing campaigns/actions/etc. they complain Marketing is doing too much....

Of course, I know the complaint now is going to be that Novell is marketing the 'wrong' way or to the 'wrong' people or too much on the 'wrong' products. Novell is marketing GroupWise 8 inside AND outside its installed base, outside AND inside Novell. I guess the only way we will all be satisfied is when all of these products do better in the marketplace and that is a combination of good products, good marketing, good sales and good partners. I feel we have all of those aligned for GroupWise 8.

Thanks again for your comments!

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