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GroupWise and Nokia Intellisync

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29 September 2008 - 1:23pm
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As you have already heard, Nokia has announced the discontinuance of the Intellisync suite of products, which Novell has OEMed as GroupWise Mobile Server. We did not receive any forewarning of this announcement, and it was equally a surprise to our Intellisync contacts within Nokia.

This leaves a lot of questions, some of which we are still working out the details to, however, Nokia will continue to support Intellisync Mobile Suite for an additional 2 years, and Novell still has distribution rights for the product.

http://www.nokiaforbusiness.com/Page%20Content/hom...

Obviously we need to come up with a strategy to continue to support your mobile devices going forwards, and we have already been working on that strategy for some time. The recent announcement from Nokia simply accelerates that strategy, which is not necessarily a bad thing. As we solidify the details we will be able to share that strategy more publically, but in the meantime please be assured that this is a top priority for the GroupWise team and Novell as a whole.


Disclaimer: As with everything else at Cool Solutions, this content is definitely not supported by Novell (so don't even think of calling Support if you try something and it blows up).

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grimlock's picture

Ouch, that's going to hurt.

Submitted by grimlock on 29 September 2008 - 2:35pm.

I wonder if they are willing to put that unit up for sale for another company to purchase.

aevans's picture

We are considering everything

Submitted by aevans on 30 September 2008 - 1:10pm.

We are considering everything, though we already had a roadmap in mind and accelerating that roadmap is the most likely course of action. It should be noted that the Nokia press release did menton that Nokia were not planning on selling the business.

ybuteau's picture

good thing

Submitted by ybuteau on 22 May 2010 - 4:38am.

I think that's an excellent thing. Keep us informed.

jimmy82's picture

wow, just read this old post.

Submitted by jimmy82 on 24 February 2011 - 12:39pm.

wow, just read this old post. It's amazing how much the phone industry has changed.

skapanen's picture

3rd party or Activesync

Submitted by skapanen on 30 September 2008 - 10:37pm.

I don't think it would be wise for Novell to continue with Intellisync even if it would be possible.. it's not the main business and needs lot of effort.

If there are other working 3rd party apps for GW mobility, let's look at those... (and don't forget Nokia Symbian support)

Or, bring activesync to Groupwise, that would give more options.

gailslim's picture

User support

Submitted by gailslim on 19 August 2009 - 11:06am.

Don't you think that without mobile device support, GroupWise will start losing its users. Can't this change?

aevans's picture

Yes

Submitted by aevans on 19 August 2009 - 2:25pm.

You are commenting on a blog that is almost a year old and I have shared more information in other posts. The most recent post on this specific subject is this one:
http://www.novell.com/communities/node/8352/replac...

Anonymous's picture

Sure hope Novell comes up

Submitted by Anonymous on 29 September 2008 - 3:34pm.

Sure hope Novell comes up with something, or this will be the last nail in the coffin !!! Without mobile device support, GroupWise will be dead in the water.

aevans's picture

Mobile support is essential

Submitted by aevans on 30 September 2008 - 1:11pm.

As I mentioned, a mobile story is very important to Novell and our customers so we absolutely will come up with something.

KarinaJett's picture

replacement

Submitted by KarinaJett on 20 October 2009 - 6:33am.

The intellisync suite is a very good line of products.I do not know why they would discontinue such a great line. I just hope that the replacement will be just as good or even better, as I use this all the time. Karina

rianxy's picture

yeah sure

Submitted by rianxy on 21 February 2010 - 8:09am.

I agree with you. mobile device support is crutial issues for now

Anonymous's picture

The question is....

Submitted by Anonymous on 30 September 2008 - 7:51am.

Do you have or can you get the source?

aevans's picture

Considering it

Submitted by aevans on 30 September 2008 - 1:13pm.

As with most agreements of this type we don't have the source code. Note that Nokia have committed to 2 years of support for the product, which gives us some time to decide and implement a long term mobility strategy

skapanen's picture

Can you provide any details

Submitted by skapanen on 20 October 2008 - 1:06am.

Can you provide any details on the 2 year support, what does it actually mean?

thtran's picture

Details can be found in

Submitted by thtran on 20 October 2008 - 7:39am.

Details can be found in this statement from Nokia (PDF): http://www.nokiaforbusiness.com/Page%20Content/hom...

Anonymous's picture

GMS3

Submitted by Anonymous on 30 September 2008 - 9:27am.

What about GMS 3.0, beta is out, will there be a release?

aevans's picture

We are still figuring it out

Submitted by aevans on 30 September 2008 - 1:15pm.

We are still figuring it out - we are talking with Nokia to decide what releases there are going to be and when they will happen. It is likely that GMS3.0 will be released but Novell's main priority is to get GroupWise 8 out of the door first

skapanen's picture

news on this?

Submitted by skapanen on 6 October 2008 - 11:19am.

Hi Alex,

Any news on the GMS 3.0 release, hopefully it will come..?

When might we expect to hear news about the future plans?

Anonymous's picture

No mobile support, no Groupwise

Submitted by Anonymous on 30 September 2008 - 10:39am.

The release of GMS was the killer feature to push Groupwise into our company. If the mobile support breaks away, goodbye Groupwise...

aevans's picture

Mobile support is essential

Submitted by aevans on 30 September 2008 - 1:17pm.

We understand the importance of mobility and it continues to be a key part of our strategy.

Anonymous's picture

Re: No mobile support, no Groupwise

Submitted by Anonymous on 1 October 2008 - 6:51am.

Have you looked at a product called NotifyLink which also supports iPhones for Groupwise?

John

Anonymous's picture

Re: No mobile support, no Groupwise

Submitted by Anonymous on 29 October 2008 - 1:35am.

I haven't heard about NotifyLink before, John. Now I'm curious. :)

Angela

rr2009's picture

Here's a great short

Submitted by rr2009 on 23 August 2009 - 9:22pm.

Here's a great short explanation about NotifyLink... "The NotifyLink Enterprise Mobility Solution provides Over-the-Air synchronization of Email and PIM thus freeing users from the requirement of cradling their wireless devices in order to maintain synchronization."

tolo87's picture

I am also curious about

Submitted by tolo87 on 26 September 2009 - 6:40am.

I am also curious about this. What is it?

AndrewBellNyc's picture

Hi Angela, Any luck dealing

Submitted by AndrewBellNyc on 31 January 2010 - 12:00am.

Hi Angela,

Any luck dealing with NotifyLink?

Andrew Bell

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Re: No mobile support, no Groupwise

Submitted by wiltonweser on 17 November 2010 - 12:55pm.

I'm new to iphone and get this helpful, thnx for great discussion.

WILTON Weser

nikaelaw's picture

NotifyLink Enterprise

Submitted by nikaelaw on 27 July 2009 - 10:09am.

For wireless device users, the NotifyLink Enterprise Server provides support for a variety of wireless networks including cellular networks such as CDMA/1XRTT, GSM/GPRS, iDEN, and all fixed wireless networks using 802.11x technology...

Anonymous's picture

Notifylink Enterprise

Submitted by Anonymous on 30 September 2008 - 11:14am.

May be a good alternative to become OEM for ...

fabriciot's picture

Intellisync x(

Submitted by fabriciot on 30 September 2008 - 12:03pm.

This is the origin of Intellisync's end: email.nokia.com (beta)

Anonymous's picture

NotifyLink

Submitted by Anonymous on 30 September 2008 - 12:19pm.

Notify Link seems to have had inside info on this... They were saying that Intellisync was out and that they were going to be the new GMS provider over 2 months ago.....

Anonymous's picture

Move to Exchange?

Submitted by Anonymous on 30 September 2008 - 8:15pm.

Time to pack up the GroupWise my friends; looks like this really is the end of the road.

Anonymous's picture

I think you are jumping the

Submitted by Anonymous on 1 October 2008 - 2:13pm.

I think you are jumping the gun there.

Anonymous's picture

IntelliSync for Exchange and Notes

Submitted by Anonymous on 2 October 2008 - 8:50am.

If Nokia stops IntelliSync it will be stopped for Exchange and Notes too. So there is no advantage to switch away from GroupWise.

grimlock's picture

The fact is, most phones

Submitted by grimlock on 30 November 2009 - 10:20am.

The fact is, most phones work out of the box with Outlook, so you don't need Nokia's product. The same can not be said from GroupWise.. yet.. In a few months they will have finally closed a shortcoming that's been present for years... we hope..

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Sort of

Submitted by blntskul on 30 November 2009 - 1:02pm.

To be fair, the widespread use of Active Sync by a wide variety of phones is a pretty recent phenomenon. Windows Mobile has supported it for a long time, but it was a desktop sync process. Most other phones that supported Outlook did so with a third party application, like Intellisync. If you wanted to sync wirelessly to Windows Mobile, or any other device, you needed a third party product - and Intellisync was the biggest name in that market. Novell was the first to provide free wireless sync with GMS (aka Intellisync). Microsoft released their integrated support with Exchange a bit later, and at that point, more phones started to support the Active Sync protocol natively. Now it is the case that a wide variety of phones support Active Sync protocol natively. This all happened pretty quickly, and in that time, Novell offered a solution that supported an even wider variety of phones (sans the iPhone) than those that supported Active Sync natively.

So the real problem in this equation is that Nokia bought a product and mothballed it in short order. It's not a particular lack of vision by Novell, and this isn't a feature that's been lacking for a long period of time. This Nokia announcement came earlier this year, and was a surprise to everyone but Nokia. I think Novell made the best decision at the time that they went with GMS, and now they're making another good decision and implementing in pretty quick order.

Anonymous's picture

notifylink

Submitted by Anonymous on 1 October 2008 - 6:06am.

I've been in contact with them. Seems to be a similar product to gms and plus they support/sync Iphones, which is becoming more the norm in our company. Maybe worth jumping ship and joing them now.

Anonymous's picture

GroupWise - and why people are leaving

Submitted by Anonymous on 1 October 2008 - 9:19am.

You have been talking about GW 8 for a long time. GW7 came out in 2005. Three years and maybe four, is just too long for an upgrade. I have worked very hard to keep GW in our company while everyone around me keeps saying go to Exchange. This might be the straw that breaks the camels back.

Anonymous's picture

Outlook 2003 to Outlook 2007

Submitted by Anonymous on 1 October 2008 - 12:43pm.

What about Outlook 2003 to Outlook 2007? That was a few months over 3 years.

Anonymous's picture

Outlook 2003 to Outlook 2007

Submitted by Anonymous on 1 October 2008 - 11:28pm.

But with major changes! Good or bad is not the point here.

Anonymous's picture

Outlook?

Submitted by Anonymous on 2 October 2008 - 1:55am.

Folks, we are talking about Groupwise and Intellisync here on a Novell blog.

Lets keep the talk about inferior products to a minimum. Plus, the whole world is moving to the Dark Side, they have millions of their own sites to chat about their products, its greatness (sic) and of course all the thousands of issues it has.

Lets keep Novell sites clear of their nonsense and rather concentrate on the issue in hand. Those who know, know and understand the superiority of Groupwise. We understand that Novell's buying power doesnt extend to that of The Darkside who gobbles up small businesses and then palms of its IT products as their own.......Novell relies on external sources to enhance their already fantastic products. If those sources suddenly pulls the plug, then so be it, its not Novell's fault (for all we know, the Darkside may have given the developer a tidy backhander to stop supporting the rebels in a bit to crush their resources). But in this case all's not lost. If anything notifylink is better than Intellisync. It caters for more systems, whereas GMS was mainly aimed at symbians and windows mobile. I know for a fact that I-phones are supported on notify-link.

Groupwise Rocks, always has, always will !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

anonymous's picture

Notifylink is not the solution for Novell

Submitted by anonymous (not verified) on 3 October 2008 - 2:01pm.

The big disadvantage of Notifylink is its reliance on Windows as Server BS and MS SQL Server etc. I could imagine rather big scaling issues - they recommend 3 servers for bigger installations.

The charme of the intellisync solution is(was?), that it can be run on Linux.

anonymous's picture

I wouldn't characterize

Submitted by anonymous (not verified) on 6 October 2008 - 1:13pm.

I wouldn't characterize that as a big disadvantage. We have a ton of apps that require Windows, and that probably won't change in the foreseeable future. The only real issue with Notify, from my perspective, is its architecture for connecting to Groupwise is a little weak. They use the Groupwise Client API to periodically poll users' accounts for PIM data and they use IMAP to periodically poll the users' inbox for email. They do work as a trusted application, but for grabbing the PIM and mail data, they should probably be moving toward SOAP and event registration.

anonymous's picture

Few months, Yes... but

Submitted by anonymous (not verified) on 3 October 2008 - 8:47am.

Few months, Yes... but Outlook 2007, eventhough more pleasing to the eye, is full of bugs. I'd rather wait longer for a 'finished' product than get something which will turn my hair grey from frustration

Anonymous's picture

Broken Promises once again

Submitted by Anonymous on 1 October 2008 - 2:58pm.

Alex,
It has been a long and hard road for GroupWise. When I personally met with Jeff Hawkins who was in charge of Novell Collaboration products, he was in the process of signing the deal with InteliSync. The roadmap was to use IntelliSync as a conduit to connect GroupWise to MANY other systems and applications, and not only Mobile Devices. GroupWise was going to integrate with many CRM systems, PeopleSoft and many other applications.

This was almost 4 years ago. What have you guys been doing since? Your statement of "though we already had a roadmap in mind and accelerating that roadmap is the most likely course of action" is another typical marketing statement and an empty promise, attempting to give a dying product one last jolt of life.

I've seen working version of Bonsai (GW8.0) and have seen the roadmap to Ponderosa (GW9.0) and I'm not really that impressed. They should be called GW7.6 and 7.7 respectively.

Much like many people, I'm saddened by seeing GroupWise to go away, but my business demands creativity, innovation and technology. I don't see any of it in GroupWise, its development team and Novell as a company. How sad...

anonymous's picture

AMEN!!!!

Submitted by anonymous (not verified) on 3 October 2008 - 2:05pm.

I couldn't have said it any better.

aevans's picture

Roadmap

Submitted by aevans on 6 October 2008 - 9:03am.

Contrary to your statement seat count and revenue of GroupWise are actually growing, and we are seeing a surge in many markets. I am not in marketing, so my statements should not be taken as such. We have a plan in place and are executing on it. Novell is committed to the collaboration market, as demonstrated by the Sitescape purchase, and we have roadmaps that reach out a number of releases for both product sets.

Ponderosa is an OES codename, so I am not sure what it is that you saw.

ryanpitylak's picture

GroupWise

Submitted by ryanpitylak on 20 December 2009 - 8:42pm.

Hopefully they can take the GroupWise technology and use it for the next generation product.

Rimser's picture

It seems to be a general stop ...

Submitted by Rimser on 2 October 2008 - 9:01am.

So GroupWise, Exchange and Notes have the same problem. We can complain that GroupWise has lost or will loose a solution. I am considering if Exchange administrators are complaining in the same way ...

Don't tell me that Exchange is using a solution "Out of the Box" offering the same features and supporting the same hype of mobile devices.

The grass in neighbour's garden is not really greener!

anonymous's picture

yes but..

Submitted by anonymous (not verified) on 2 October 2008 - 10:46pm.

.. Nokia still provides Mail for Exchange.

anonymous's picture

No, Microsoft provides

Submitted by anonymous (not verified) on 6 October 2008 - 10:39am.

No, Microsoft provides mobile sync for Exchange. Nokia is going to leverage Microsoft's offering and drop their own.

emid123's picture

Mark Senior

Submitted by emid123 on 7 January 2010 - 12:08pm.

Indeed Nokia does still integrate with Microsoft exchange.

anonymous's picture

GMS

Submitted by anonymous (not verified) on 3 October 2008 - 3:54am.

If you look back in history, it was only a couple of years ago that more than 50% of what GroupWise partners were doing had to do with mobility. Partners like Omni, Messaging Architects, Nexic, NotifyLink, Advansys, RIM and Toffa all had more or less good solutions for the GroupWise market.

Then Novell, in its ultimate wisdom, turned their back on those very loyal partners and decided to work with Nokia and offer a 'free' mobility solution with GroupWise 7. This move of course wasn't received with a lot of enthusiasm by the GroupWise partner community. To say the least.

Now Novell got back stabbed by Nokia, which is maybe fair from the above perspective, but at the end of the day GroupWise customers, partners and the channel are hurt by this in a time where already too many customers are migrating to Exchange instead of moving to GroupWise 8, not because they don't trust the GroupWise technology as such, on the contrary, but just because they don't trust Novell to execute properly on what customers and the market demand of such a solution.

anonymous's picture

That's a sad commentary.

Submitted by anonymous (not verified) on 6 October 2008 - 11:06am.

That's a sad commentary. Novell offered a bundled (free) option because that's what customers wanted. Microsoft did the same. How many little guys do you think they stepped on? Forget the little guys - why do you think that Nokia is bowing out of that market?

Novell has to keep Groupwise competitive. If Novell hadn't provided the solution, and Microsoft had, you would be complaining about how Exchange has something built in that Groupwise doesn't, and faulting Novell for that. There's always a balance of what to build into your product versus what you leave for partner offerings. The smart partners build their products to be flexible and to work with multiple back-end systems, and they're able to maintain a place in the market when these changes come around. That's why Notify is still around - they work with over a dozen mail/groupware systems on the back end, and pretty much every end user device on the front end. Even if Intellisync were still viable, there are good reasons to go with Notify in certain situations (say like if you wanted to support Blackberry's and iPhone's without using three different products).

Novell made the right choice at the time. Now it's time to make another choice. Stick around and see what it is.

anonymous's picture

Don't Hit the Panic Button

Submitted by anonymous (not verified) on 6 October 2008 - 10:37am.

For the folks that are suggesting that this could spell the end for Groupwise, please step back and take a breath. Novell partnered with Nokia to offer us a 'no additional cost' method for synchronizing mobile devices. That was really nice, but for quite some time, you've had alternatives - albeit at a cost. If you'll take a few minutes to think about the cost of a third party sync solution, like Notify, and compare that to the added cost of using an Exchange solution, it still doesn't make sense to migrate away from Groupwise.

I also have to disagree with the comments about the lack of major progress in the upcoming 8.0 release. Novell didn't completely redesign the end user interface as Microsoft did with Outlook 2007 - and that's a good thing. Microsoft has made changes for the sake of change, not progress. There are plenty of compelling new features in the upcoming release, and I for one am looking forward to it.

Keep Groupwise rocking, Novell.

anonymous's picture

Reasons to switch are growing...

Submitted by anonymous (not verified) on 6 October 2008 - 4:58pm.

I may have mentioned this before to the masses, but the ONLY thing that’s keeping Novell alive in my organization of $5 Billion in size, is GroupWise. The only reason that I have not switched GroupWise with anything else is the fact that I can not justify a business reason to do so. An Email is an Email and a Task is a Task, no matter how you slice and dice it. Yet as a CTO, I have to plan my company’s technology for the next 3 to 5 years. Since it has taken the GroupWise team 4 years to come up with something that’s names GW8.0 which should be just a SP4 upgrade, I can not see any reason why I should even keep Novell on my radar scope.

That said I can see many business applications coming down the line requiring “standard” Exchange to work. Most all Unified Communication Applications from Cisco, Nortel, Avaya, etc. all require Exchange. Integration of Microsoft SYNC in most Ford cars and soon to be expanded to many other car makers requires exclusively an Exchange back-end. It reads your Email or Calendar appointments for you while you’re driving, and you can talk back to your calendar and push your meetings back because you’re running late, making the server to notify all attendees of the meeting delay. That’s innovation guys. I guess the guys at Microsoft weren’t sitting around for 4 years, riding the gravy train.

I installed my first NetWare 2.0a in 1986 or around then. My first GroupWise installation was GW4.1, right as Novell bought it from Word Perfect. It makes me angry to go back on a product that I have loved and supported for these many years. But the time is getting close and the product is not improving much.

Anonymous's picture

Sorry, Can't Agree

Submitted by Anonymous on 17 October 2008 - 11:14am.

Microsoft is not an innovator - it is merely a market share holder. What is it about Exchange that you think is innovative? Email is email and a task is a task, so is the difference how well the product works behind the scenes - how cost effective it is? If that's important, Groupwise has a marked edge over Exchange.

The Microsoft Sync technology for Ford cars is mildly interesting, and I imagine you'll see something like that emerging from other auto makers, but whether it's Microsoft Sync or not is yet to be seen. Are you going to get together with your CFO and change out your company's car fleet to Ford for this kind of thing? Probably not. I guess I'm not a fan of Ford anyway, but having too much Microsoft in my vehicle would make me a little nervous. Microsoft is trying to make inroads into pretty much every market, and it doesn't always work out for them. But if you're looking for an audible calendar for your car, maybe you do need Exchange. But as you say, it wouldn't seem to be a real business case, and for companies that care about money (which is probably most), it may not be a real factor. Microsoft is also developing a touch sensitive coffee table that will probably be able to surf the Internet and sync with a Zune, but not an iPod, so it's applications may be limited.

It's certainly true that there are more partners with products that depend on or integrate with Exchange than with Groupwise. I choose products that are based on open standards, and purposefully avoid products that lock me into particular solutions from others. You mention Unified Communications as an example. We use Cisco's voice solution here, and it's true that Unity voicemail is tightly coupled with Exchange, and if you want to integrate it with Groupwise, you need a third party solution, like GW Unify - which, by the way, would still end up saving you money over switching to Exchange for UM. However, Cisco Unity Connection is also available, and you can grab voicemail directly from it using IMAP with Groupwise. Cisco has realized that they can't bet the bank on a Microsoft partnership, so their home grown, non-Microsoft dependent solution is rapidly becoming the preferred solution for many. I don't know about the Avaya and Nortel solutions, but there may be some options there as well. I know Avaya supports Lotus, not just Exchange.

As the CTO of a $5B company, you should have some impact on the product development of your partners. Give them some incentive to work with what you have rather than replacing what you have. Don't buy products that lock you into specific Groupware products, which in turn locks you into specific directories (like the Active kind), which in turn locks you into a specific operating system, and filters all the way down to your desktop productivity suite.

grimlock's picture

Ford Sync

Submitted by grimlock on 11 May 2009 - 9:19am.

I have a car with Ford Sync. It's amazing. I can't find a bluetooth kit for my other car that will download address books, let me dial by name or dial by number with no voice activation needed on phones. Works with my palm treo, works with my wife's katana and a host of other phones. That's probably going to be Fords gotta have it equivalent of GM's On Star.

takod's picture

F

Submitted by takod on 29 November 2009 - 12:00am.

I have a car with Ford Sync too.

anonymous's picture

Why not SyncML?

Submitted by anonymous (not verified) on 8 October 2008 - 1:49pm.

Why doesn't Novell provide a SyncML gateway to GroupWise? As far as I understand it, SyncML is a sort of open source ActiveSync? Many devices already support SyncML and there are many people making SyncML clients commercially available. Toffa provide a basic email synchronisation product that works over SyncML with GroupWise, why not buy them up and use their code to make a SyncML gateway that talks to GroupWise over SOAP? If you helped extol and contributed to the SyncML standard then maybe SyncML would gain wider adoption? I'm sure mobile device makers would rather make devices that used an open standard instead of (like iPhone) having to licence MS technology.

The third party vendors can still make a buck by selling solutions that have additional capabilities like "remote device wipe".

Whatever Novell does they should really do it FAST. I cannot understand why Novell continues to develop on NetWare and Windows instead of just concentrating on Linux-based solutions. You have a lot of code you need to write to catch up to Microsoft in terms of functionality and whilst you continue to develop on three platforms you will always be diluting your efforts. Ditch those legacy platforms and concentrate on the future.

Simon

Anonymous's picture

Vaultus might be a good bet for partnering

Submitted by Anonymous on 27 October 2008 - 10:11am.

http://www.vaultus.com/partners.htm

These guys work with BES and sync all kinds of CRM's already, so Groupwise support shouldn't be too bad.

Plus, it's all they do, so they won't be shutting it down anytime soon.... ;-)

RD
http://www.ironoakit.com

milobouer's picture

well it's great you've been

Submitted by milobouer on 16 November 2008 - 7:49am.

well it's great you've been working on a stratergy in advance, I look forward to hearing more. It is worrying how quickly and without any warning things can change.

milo

Anonymous's picture

Local Sync

Submitted by Anonymous on 25 November 2008 - 11:42pm.

There's still the local sync solutions for Palm and Windows Mobile. You still need a desktop you can't get away from that.

QuartzDevelopment.

Marlet's picture

Its basically a email

Submitted by Marlet on 30 April 2009 - 9:49am.

Its basically a email client based software that is running on most of the newest phones, being iPhone, Blackberry and Nokia E71

usmanrocks's picture

Notifylinks is kind of new

Submitted by usmanrocks on 10 May 2009 - 4:10pm.

Notifylinks is kind of new for me not heard about it before.

Regards,

Usman From Alaska Cruises

hgdingman's picture

So is anything happening?

Submitted by hgdingman on 14 May 2009 - 7:46am.

Nokia's announcement was last September.

Now it's May.

Is anything happening, or is GroupWise just being left to die a slow and painful death?

We're getting a lot of pressure to migrate away from Novell and GW, to MS, Exchange and Outlook. Don't spurn the "one more nail in the coffin" comment - it may be prophetic.

wisebills's picture

Pressure to Migrate?

Submitted by wisebills on 6 June 2009 - 8:56am.

Hi hgdingman,

When you say pressure to migrate do you mean from management? Users? Can you elaborate further? There are many arguments both for and against both 'solutions'. John - Utility Warehouse

grimlock's picture

I had a long thread in the

Submitted by grimlock on 14 May 2009 - 9:24am.

I had a long thread in the Novell Community Chat forum about that. The answer is still... yes, eventually. I'd be amazed if it was this year, and quite frankly a 1.0 version of this new product in production is a little scary.

skapanen's picture

no details or schedules?!?

Submitted by skapanen on 14 May 2009 - 9:25am.

I haven't seen any details or timeframes of this new solution.

Hopefully Novell can assign enough resources for this.. this is important.
And please, provide some timeframe for this.

-sk

thtran's picture

Fall 2009

Submitted by thtran on 15 May 2009 - 1:45am.

Hello,
at the end of March 2009, a bunch of other Groupwise-admins and I were told by a German Novell employee that ActiveSync-support will be added in SP1 for Groupwise 8, which is supposed to be released this fall.

PandaStar's picture

Migrating

Submitted by PandaStar on 23 June 2009 - 10:00am.

Well for us it's a matter of cost, time, and effort, GMS works but security must be maintained and updates to accommodate new technology must happen. I have users who are buying new phones and I have to tell them they can't get their email on that device, NOT good when its someone like the President of the college.

Exchange provides a lot of functionality for free for us due to our campus agreements and I don't have to have it sitting on top of a system that is no longer getting security and technology updates (Netware) or requires a new mindset from our Users and Officers (linux). I am currently migrating GW 7 from Netware to Windows 2k3 but due to multiple issues with mobile users I feel this is almost a waste of time as we will probably dump GW and go to Exchange and its better support of new mobile technologies.

Oh and to the guy panning Ford and Sync I would suggest you look at them again, lots of people are appreciating that they didn't take bail out money and this has turned into more cars sold for them. I know at least 60 people here alone that have a Ford with sync tech in it, again another compelling reason to switch.

lisaldiaz's picture

Anything new to report?

Submitted by lisaldiaz on 24 June 2009 - 8:20am.

This blog entry started last September, about 9 months ago.

Can Novell give any sort of Progress Report?

thtran's picture

There's a new blog entry ...

Submitted by thtran on 24 June 2009 - 11:55am.

... by Alex Evans, regarding this: http://www.novell.com/communities/node/8352/replac...

wsk702's picture

great product line gone again

Submitted by wsk702 on 30 July 2009 - 11:00pm.

The intellisync suite is a great product line. i dont know why they would discontinue such a good line. i hope that the replacement is just as good as i use this all the time.

William Shane Kelly

ecyoung's picture

Re: great product line gone again

Submitted by ecyoung on 31 July 2009 - 12:25pm.

Reminds of PDAconnect. Seems to be a trend with OEM'd/re-branded products... Whatever happened to products being developed in-house? I hope the new ActiveSync solution is not a re-branded product.

bataspur's picture

Updates?

Submitted by bataspur on 15 August 2009 - 1:44am.

Are there some positive directions yet on this?

Maybe, some fresh reagreement with Nokia, in the worst acse, if that makes sense?

-- M. M.

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Technology

Submitted by mandela10 on 23 August 2009 - 12:11pm.

I am so fascinated by technology mainly because of company like Novell, the world of technology is vast at one point everything we do will be relied upon it.

dorothyd89's picture

It should be noted that the

Submitted by dorothyd89 on 18 September 2009 - 9:04am.

It should be noted that the Nokia press release did menton that Nokia were not planning on selling the business.

financing's picture

I'm glad..

Submitted by financing on 3 October 2009 - 3:29pm.

I'm glad nokia decided not to sell out, it would have been a real shame...

abbieonline's picture

issues

Submitted by abbieonline on 1 November 2009 - 8:39am.

I've always found I had a lot of issues with intellisync and I'm really not sure why I can't get it to work 100% of the time.

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Thankfully...

Submitted by jasonsunero on 9 November 2009 - 12:00am.

I'm definitely glad that Nokia didn't sell out. I will always support Nokia. On a side note, does anyone remember the scene from the movie Transformers where the Nokia phone turns into the mini robot? funny stuff.

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If Nokia stops IntelliSync

Submitted by arinsblogcdyt on 29 November 2009 - 3:18pm.

If Nokia stops IntelliSync it will be stopped for Exchange and Notes too. So there is no advantage to switch away from GroupWise.

hpwglass's picture

What next?

Submitted by hpwglass on 13 December 2009 - 5:17pm.

Intellisync was an interesting product line. I wonder what is in the works going foward for mobile device support?

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Intellisync is done

Submitted by florinosci on 1 January 2010 - 12:00am.

Bad move, I think a lot of people will make a change based on this decision.

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What's a Bad Move?

Submitted by blntskul on 4 January 2010 - 12:07pm.

What decision are you referring to that's bad? Novell has no choice but to move away from Intellisync - Nokia owns it and is dropping it. Novell's decision to support the Active Sync protocol natively with their new sync engine is a very smart move. I'm looking forward to it.

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This old posting answers my

Submitted by mikekiske on 12 January 2010 - 3:27am.

This old posting answers my problem with my recently bought Nokia E75. I am using Groupwise mobile server 8.0.104.4. I tried to get the setting over the air from the operator I'm subscribing to yet it returned the following message : 'Unable to connect to server. Try again later'

progolfer's picture

Better support

Submitted by progolfer on 17 January 2010 - 10:15am.

Hope they already fixed this, I use my pocket pc all the time and have technical issues

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New begininngs

Submitted by cameragirl on 7 June 2010 - 7:45am.

Sometimes old technology needs to die to give birth to the new. The future is bright! =)

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I haven't heard about

Submitted by aviokarte on 12 June 2010 - 9:41pm.

I haven't heard about NotifyLink before, John. Now I'm curious. :)

conner1's picture

Great information, couldn't

Submitted by conner1 on 24 June 2010 - 7:39am.

Great information, couldn't have done any better myself, keep us informed!

teksty's picture

The release of GMS was the killer

Submitted by teksty on 18 September 2010 - 3:04am.

The release of GMS was the killer feature to push Groupwise into our company. If the mobile support breaks away, goodbye Groupwise...

bowyia's picture

Nokia

Submitted by bowyia on 10 November 2010 - 5:19pm.

I think the Intellisync suite of products was good, I wonder why Nokia decided to discontinue it?

Johnnie

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2 years later

Submitted by kenneylee1117 on 29 November 2010 - 11:04am.

I was looking for some info on Groupwise and ran across this forum. I was wondering now that it has been 2 years since Nokia's BS, how is the Groupwise team and Novell handling the support. Is going ok? What are users saying? Was the transition seemless?

Kenney

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Status

Submitted by rvpdesigners on 26 January 2011 - 9:39pm.

I'm a bit curious as to how this played out judging by the date.

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Support

Submitted by kesslerfields on 30 March 2011 - 9:23pm.

The intellisync suite is a very good line of products.I do not know why they would discontinue such a great line. I just hope that the replacement will be just as good or even better, as I use this all the time.

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