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Collaboration Schedule/Plan Updates!

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3 February 2010 - 12:00am
Submitted by: dlythgoe

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The Collaboration Portfolio within Novell continues to expand and accelerate. We have more products and solutions shipping or scheduled to ship than ever before. Engineering is working very closely with Product Management and Product Marketing to make sure we understand each deliverable and its impact on other groups and our customers and partners.

We will continue to communicate and share information as it becomes available.

GroupWise

GroupWise has two support packs to deliver in the next several months. GroupWise 7.0.4, the last support pack for the GroupWise 7 product line, is scheduled to release in March. We have our first release candidate and we have turned the product over to our QA department for final validation and test cases. We are still chasing a few issues that we hope to resolve before March, but this release will be schedule driven. The release of GroupWise 7.0.4 will signal the beginning of the "End of Life" process. Please review the Support LIfe Cycle to familiarize yourself with terms and conditions. After 7.0.4, we will not be releasing any more support packs or Hot Patches for the GroupWise 7 product line. Fixes for problems you encounter with GroupWise 7 will be addressed in the GroupWise 8 product line and we encourage you to upgrade. Upgrade in order to get fixes and support - and more importantly - for the increased productivity and enhancements that come with GroupWise 8...even GroupWise 8.0.2 - which will be shipping in a few months.

GroupWise 8.0.2 is currently scheduled to release in June. It is targeted, of course, to resolve customer reported issues and defects. However, it also contains several enhancements. These features are currently code complete in the product and will be part of the 8.0.2 deliverable.

- Limit the # of recipients on an email
- Access Control Lists for the 'use' of System Distribution Lists
- Limit the types of attachments a user can send
- Teaming Integration - Searches in GroupWise also search Teaming repository
- Conferencing Integration - Schedule a Conference call as easily as scheduling an appointment; Join a conference call directly from my appointments

Novell Teaming

Novell Teaming 2.1 (Cortez) will ship today/tomorrow BETA 6. It is on schedule to release on February 22nd. The beta response for this product has been superb! This is a great step in the right direction and with the added benefits that will be available in GroupWise 8.0.2, this product is maturing before our eyes.

Here are a few of the features you will find in the latest version of Teaming.

- Import and Export capability
- Undelete
- Data quotas
- Mobility access
- Landing Page Editor
- Extension Administration
- Task/Calendar Improvements

Take the time to look at how your organization can benefit from the content management features and team building attributes of Teaming 2.1

The release after Cortez is code named Durango. Durango is scheduled to ship in the Fall. Requirements have been defined and about 80% of the details worked out. The engineering team has already begun to work on Durango and it has a very focused 'Usability' strategy. Our Human Factors team has been working for several months in helping us define the correct user interaction for several of the major components that will be reworked and improved in Durango.

Novell Conferencing

We have not updated our Novell Conferencing product for some time. We plan to announce our strategy and a new product direction at BrainShare 2010 in Salt Lake City. We are very excited about the hosted/SaaS offering and the slick new experience available with this upcoming release. Come to BrainShare for all of the details!

Novell DataSynchronizer (Gradenko and Lightning)

This is the product and release that all of our customers are anticipating and expecting delivery. We are acutely aware of the situation and the schedule delays. Instead of apologizing, I will simply tell you what we are doing and where we are at with this project and its deliverables.

We have shifted all of our focus to the Mobility solution and replacement for GMS. The Novell DataSynchronizer Mobility Pack is scheduled to be in Alpha any day now. We expect and are planning on being in BETA by BrainShare in March. This has been a frustrating project and I know that many of you are disappointed with our progress and schedule slips. This is the highest priority deliverable in our portfolio. We can only request your continued patience as we work out the technical details. We have added resources, we have cut scope, and we are working extra hours. We know we can not sacrifice functionality or quality. GMS is the functionality benchmark and we need to expand device support and improve quality. This will continue to be a challenge, but we hope it will be a solution that not only meets our mobility needs, but also will be the building blocks for our 3rd-Party integration strategy.

Novell Pulse

Novell Pulse is the latest addition to our Collaboration portfolio. This cloud-based, real-time web tool is an entry into the expanding Cloud and Hosted collaboration marketplace. Novell Pulse is planning to release in mid-2010. Many details and plans surrounding this product have not been made publicly available. Expect to learn a lot about this offering at BrainShare 2010.

Novell NetWare

I need to talk about one more thing - NetWare. As most of you probably know, NetWare will begin its 'end of life' process on March 7th, 2010. Hopefully you have already upgraded your GroupWise system to OES/SLES. If you are still running GroupWise on NetWare, now is the time to upgrade to both OES and GroupWise 8.

The next major release of GroupWise - code named Windermere - will not support NetWare and will also be 64-bit. I believe it is better to plan these upgrades appropriately. NetWare to OES; GroupWise 7 to 8 and eventually 32-bit to 64-bit applications.

I think that wraps it up! A few survey questions to let us know of your organization's plans and future. Please answer these questions:

1. If you are still on NetWare, when are you upgrading to OES?
2. If you are still on GroupWise 7, when are you upgrading to GroupWise 8?
3. Does your organization have plans or initiatives to go to the Cloud or to SaaS with any product - including email?

Thanks,

Dean


Disclaimer: As with everything else at Cool Solutions, this content is definitely not supported by Novell (so don't even think of calling Support if you try something and it blows up).

It was contributed by a community member and is published "as is." It seems to have worked for at least one person, and might work for you. But please be sure to test, test, test before you do anything drastic with it.




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ecyoung's picture

Re: Collaboration Schedule/Plan Updates!

Submitted by ecyoung on 4 February 2010 - 7:41am.

Regarding the statement "The next major release of GroupWise - code named Windermere - will not support NetWare and will also be 64-bit.", can we assume this means Windermere will be native 64-bit for both Windows and SLES? Or has a decision been made similar to the DataSynchronizer/Mobility solution, to dump support for Windows?

Thank you.

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Re: Platform Support

Submitted by dlythgoe on 4 February 2010 - 10:39am.

We will not be dumping support for Windows. We are not doing so GroupWise NOR are we doing so with Novell DataSynchronizer. The initial release of DataSynchronizer will only support SLES 11 64-bit, but we will be adding OES and Windows in future releases of this technology.

Windermere will support OES, SLES, and Windows. Specific versions will depend upon the life cycles of those platforms at the time Windermere ships.

Hope that helps...

Dean

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survey questions

Submitted by tbowman1724 on 4 February 2010 - 8:35am.

1) some NetWare left, most notable for the API gateway.

2) We are on GW 8 except for the domain the API gateway resides in

3) No.

Is there ever going to be an update to the API gateway or a replacement for its funcationality? We currently integrate it with our RightFax solution and it works very well.

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Management interface

Submitted by grimlock on 4 February 2010 - 11:06am.

Will it still be ConsoleOne, or will you finally abandon that?

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Re: Management Interface...

Submitted by dlythgoe on 5 February 2010 - 8:42am.

We are planning on moving off of ConsoleOne. We simply need to see how far we get....

Some of the things under consideration are the following:

- Add Support for Active Directory in addition to eDirectory and probably other LDAP directories
- Move to a Web -based Administration model
- Provide more role-based administration

Nothing is set in stone just yet, but we are making progress on all of these fronts.

Dean

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Re: Web-based Administration model

Submitted by ecyoung on 5 February 2010 - 9:07am.

By Web-based Administration model, does this mean iManager, or has iManager been abandoned in favor of the concept of a separate management console for every product (i.e. management console hell)?

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Re: Web-based Administration

Submitted by dlythgoe on 8 February 2010 - 3:46pm.

The current thinking is that we have missed the iManager train. It is not in our best interest to move to iManager completely, although we do believe that our web console administration could be accessed through iManager.

We are currently moving forward with plans to create our own web-based administration console. These plans hopefully will include as many of the Collaboration products as possible or at least eventually. GroupWise, Teaming, Pulse, Gradenko and Mobility.

This is a strategic direction and may be elusive, but we will design accordingly. This is obviously a controversial subject and one that seems to split our customer base into factions.

Final decisions have not been made on this direction. We are working with Product Management and customers of all of our products to come to some arrangement. At this point, we know it will be web-based and will include a 3rd-party API access - probably SOAP based.

Dean

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Single point of failure

Submitted by smflood on 9 February 2010 - 10:21am.

So where does having multiple management tools, with each required to manage a different Novell product, fit into Novell's "Making IT Work As One" strategy?

Simon

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Re: Web-based Administration

Submitted by imc on 9 February 2010 - 6:35am.

Dean,

Novell seems to be on this C#/Mono train. Why can't there be a comprehensive admin utility that uses the Mono VM, is extensible for third party integrations, and not be slow as dirt like iManager is now?

I know you said you guys are not going the iManager route, but web based administration can be slow and cumbersome, based on my experience. I understand that an over arching tool to manage "Novell" environments is probably beyond your scope of work and responsibilities, but I always wonder why has this never been an obtainable goal? All iManager did over Console1 was to basically duplicate all the existing capabilities of Console 1(minus GW and Zen). So that's five wasted years there. Somebody(not you) dropped the ball years ago on this and without a proper and comprehensive strategy, the tool chain will continue to be disparate and irritating to admins, and could be a catalyst for anyone used to the Microsoft tools to suggest a possible migration driven by frustration.

Although whatever happens, not having to have file level access(nss) to the GroupWise databases to do any sort of administration will be a pleasure. Having GroupWise on a non NSS volume basically requires me to VNC into that server and run a local copy of C1 to do anything.

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Administration

Submitted by dlythgoe on 9 February 2010 - 11:03am.

Great Comments! We have explored many cross-platform solutions including C#/Mono. Web has not been our first choice, but technologies on the web have progressed significantly to overcome the performance issues. Most current experiences on the web are lacking in many ways, so I hope that you won't judge the weaknesses of a web solution based solely on your current experience. We really believe that if performance is the only downside, we can overcome this.

I have had this conversation openly in this blog before and there is never a perfect answer that seems to address everyone's issues. However, indecision is also not a solution and that seems to have plagued this administration direction for far too long.

We are simply past our ability to maintain the entire ConsoleOne infrastructure just for GroupWise.

We will share more details as they develop.

Dean

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Best of both worlds

Submitted by smflood on 9 February 2010 - 12:00am.

Web-based administration has the benefit of theoretically being cross-platform. I say theoretically because iManager is not currently supported by Safari, the default web browser on Apple Macs. Not all Administrators use PCs as their first platform of choice although some have to because of administration requirements. iManager has grown up a lot of the years and I think 2.7.3 is as good as it has ever been. But it could still be better and yes there are gaps!

iManager Workstation seems to be the way of bridging the gap between web-based admin and a locally installed management tool but that only survives if iManager has a future ...

In addition we also need a way of manipulating data "behind the scenes". What would also be useful are published (and adhered to) APIs so third-parties can write custom tools (whether to be developed and used internally, made available commercially or simply published as Cool Tools).

We should also remember that data stored in eDirectory is accessible via LDAP (which can be got at via Perl, PHP, etc.) but again we need documentation re schemas.

Anyway I'm sure this topic will come up at BrainShare so I look forward to having that conversation with you!

Simon

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SURVEY QUESTIONS

Submitted by JNCService on 4 February 2010 - 9:22pm.

Currently GroupWise 703HP4 on a NW 6.5.8 NCS Cluster
Just talking about going to GW8. Hopefully some time in 2010.
After GW8 we plan to migrate the OS to an OES2 Cluster.

We are exploring cloud services.

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survey answers

Submitted by skapanen on 5 February 2010 - 1:00am.

1) still on Netware clusters. OES2 migrations scheduled for Q2. Problem is that OES2 is so marginal product (in Finland atleast), hard to find training/support.

2) GW8SP1 running.

3) no plans.

-sk

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"GW9"

Submitted by thsundel on 5 February 2010 - 3:50am.

Will there be AD support and a new management tool for "GW9"?

1. GW runs on SLES here
2. Waiting for next SP before upgrading from 7 to 8
3. No

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Surey

Submitted by sveld on 8 February 2010 - 1:25pm.

1 - 90+ percent of customers moved from NW to OES
2 - All are on GW8
3 - I have a few customers that have asked us for hosting GW and we have 2 setups running in our datacenter. The two we currently host are just small customers.

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Survey

Submitted by spaschall on 12 February 2010 - 7:56am.

1) Still on Netware v6.5SP8 for GroupWise v7.0.3. Have not decided, but will most likely not move to SLES, but Windows when we change OS for the GW server.
2) Will upgrade GW to 8.0.2 on NW over the summer; we are a school, which means we start enrolling August 1st, so it is critical that you guys hit your target of a June release for 8.0.2. After we have 8.0.2 stable, then we will look at which OS to move to in summer of 2011.
3) No. Being a school, we actually use "the cloud" quite a lot, but there are no plans for our core services, such as file storage and email, to be moved out to the cloud.

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Not another management tool!

Submitted by tmstone835 on 13 February 2010 - 11:55pm.

Dean,

I am not a fan of iManager but I cringe at the thought of yet another management tool for the future GroupWise products. ConsoleOne finally gained stability only after Novell made the decision to move away from it to iManager. Unfortunately, iManager turned into a much bigger problem than they were able to fix in a timely manner. In hindsight they should have stuck with C1.

So now we have a almost good version of iManager in 2.7.3, a well functioning ConsoleOne version that has been orphaned within the company, and a misty horizon for yet another management strategy. Do you sense my frustration?

Microsoft's MMC structure is pretty bad but it has the advantage of consistency. It hasn't changed much since Win2K and every company who makes a plug-in knows how to make it happen despite its huge flaws. Every administrator that works with it every day knows it inside and out even though they also know how bizarre it can be.

My conclusion is that I think that you should go with iManager since you have to move off of ConsoleOne. I also think that Novell has to light a fire under the iManager group to fix the problems that plague that product. An example is the current storage plug-in mess and the lack of a fix for almost a year.

Tom Stone

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Survey Answers

Submitted by nwman2 on 19 February 2010 - 2:46pm.

1. If you are still on NetWare, when are you upgrading to OES?
Answer: our new servers are Linux OES2 SP2, NW servers will be decommissioned when possible

2. If you are still on GroupWise 7, when are you upgrading to GroupWise 8?
Answer: our new OES2 servers with GroupWise are v8, NetWare servers are still at GW v7

3. Does your organization have plans or initiatives to go to the Cloud or to SaaS with any product - including email?
Answer: no plans to go to the cloud, etc. at this time

thsundel's picture

Release dates holding up?

Submitted by thsundel on 17 March 2010 - 11:45am.

So, can we except to see GW 7.0.4 and public beta version of Novell Datasync this month?

dlythgoe's picture

Re: Release Dates...

Submitted by dlythgoe on 17 March 2010 - 3:31pm.

GroupWise 7.0.4 released today and is now available for download.

See latest blog post: http://www.novell.com/communities/blogs/dlythgoe

Authorized BETA for Novel DataSynchronizer is currently scheduled for April.

Dean

grimlock's picture

7.04 was released just now.

Submitted by grimlock on 17 March 2010 - 3:38pm.

7.04 was released just now. I don't have current maintenance so I guess I won't find out if it fixed any issues we're having as it's locked to maintenance customers only.

ecyoung's picture

Re: maintenance customers

Submitted by ecyoung on 18 March 2010 - 7:03am.

Just because you have maintenance doesn't mean you can download anything. For example, we do have maintenance, but our named "Premium Support" contacts are unable to download the service pack. It states they are not authorized to do so. Thanks for this new system, Novell.

grimlock's picture

"but this release will be

Submitted by grimlock on 17 March 2010 - 2:57pm.

"but this release will be schedule driven. "

I'd rather it be driven by when stuff is fixed given that this is the last release. And if you can fix it so my headers on my US GroupWise don't print the page headers in German, you'd make my week.

thsundel's picture

List of bug fixes

Submitted by thsundel on 17 March 2010 - 11:56pm.

Here is a list of bug fixes, your problem doesn't seem to be solved.

http://www.novell.com/documentation/gw7/resources/...

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