December 20th, 2006 by jnyland
Overview
Novell Open Audio repeat offender, the one and only Jason Williams, is back yet again. This time he’s here to give us an update about about the Novell Client, covering Linux, Windows Vista, and new wireless network authentication features. Then the boys from Novell Support are back with cool tips and other stuff in News from Support.
Time: 52:00
Size: 14.8 MB
Segment Times
- Novell Client: 3:34-26:00
- News from Support: 26:15-47:19
Links for this Episode:
- Novell Open Enterprise Server site
- Download Novell Client 4.91 SP3 for Windows XP/2003 English
- Jason’s previous Novell Client for Linux Interview
News from Support Links
These are the links for the 11/30 episode (recorded 11/29):
- SECURITY: Client heap overflow vulnerability in Collection Client
- LDAP will not listen when loading eDirectory
- Cannot create Cluster Resource Volume or Pool object
- Backup, Restore and TSATEST problems with TSAFS on Open Enterprise Server Linux
- Mount more than 8 loopback devices
Funny Little Men Behind the Curtain:
- One more episode to go until shutdown…
- Don’t forget to update your podcatcher to one of the new NOA feeds (mp3/Ogg).
- Here is the UltraSling II:

(Model shown is slightly more burly than the actual Erin Quill.)


(4 votes, average: 4.50 out of 5)

Wireless support for the Novell Client, finally! Think I’ve annoyed Erin with this for at least 3 years at Brainshare and by mail
Thanks for mentioning me.
We’re starting a Wireless project at a school in Q1′07, now will be able to also first auth to the Wireless network, before hitting the servers. Think a few people are made happy today
Happy Christmas and a ‘Novell’ new year to all of you!
Regards, Sebastiaan
Thank you for the client update! Several people internally have been clamoring, clamoring I tell you, for information about the Vista client. We have several early adoptors already, and we’ve already had to use the ‘tough noogies’ line on them. Here’s hoping that you are able to release an open beta of the client at BrainShare.
Too bad there’s isn’t a time. Jason Williams is only saying it will be available soon. What he understands with soon isn’t the same soon that I’m thinking of.
By the way 802.1x is making me very happy.
EAP will be supoprted, but will EAP-FAST be support in the new client?
Do we know when the 802.1x is going to be available? We need it yesterday. Also is it going to be available for non_Vista (XP) clients?
Kewl sling Erin
Good to have you back
Hi Mike,
802.1x is scheduled to go out the door within a month and will support Windows XP clients with Novell Client32. The upcoming Vista client will have the support built-in.
Sorry but EAP-FAST isn’t going to be supported. A big part of the problem is that Ciscos Radius server (ACS) has very little support for eDirectory. If Cisco put some better support for eDirectory into ACS then we can certainly revisit this once more.
Hi Jason,
Can you please clarify – the 802.1x wireless support is not part of the SP3 client, it will be a further update in Jan ‘07, right?
Really need this !!
Rgds
Simon
Sebastian:
What’s funny about that is that during the recording, I thought that Erin was referring to our friend Seb Payne in the UK. (His high school recently reprimanded him for how he has been using wireless there.) So if it sounded like I did not know who I was talking about, I did–it just that Erin and I were not talking about the same Sebastian.
–Ted
sysadmin1138:
Thanks for the comment. Be sure to let us know what other stuff we should cover.
–Ted
MD:
Jason thinks in “Enterprise Time.” It goes a little slower, methinks.
–Ted
Don’t encourage him, Laura. He’ll just go out and break another limb.
–T
We’re still working things out Simon. I hope to release the 802.1x functionality outside of the Novell client SP3. I shall keep you posted on the progress.
Hi Jason,
Now we will have proper wireless support there’s just ONE other thing that we (in the Netherlands) badly need and that’s localised Netware client! Did you (for example) ever explain someone that does not speak English very well the password policy for changing passwords? I won’t go into more examples since it I think you understand my point.
So, please send me the files to make a (proper) localisation for you to we might get it into SP4 and the Vista client. BTW I’ve done the iPrint client Dutch localisation also.
Regards, Sebas
YES, I agree to that, I badly need a DUTCH client to!
I work at a school in The Netherlands, and most user related errors (password not changed in time etc.) are because the users, students and teachers alike, are having dificult reading the Client related English messages.
Most of them are just clicked away, because they are anoying, and unreadable for the most of them.
Next they come complaining to me that they can’t log in anynore, because they have no more grace logins left.
Ever tried to explain a native Dutch speaking person what a grace login is ?
A DUTCH client with readable messages would give me some releave of these problems!
So Please!
Heard mention of quad boot xp/shit-sta64/sled10/sles10
HOW?? sled 10.1 dosent seem to like to see the vista boot loader. Got openSUSE 10.2 to do it cant get sled10 on there
On what planet is 8 months a good turn around for a credible client! You can talk about other peoples drivers till the cows come home, Vista is here, now, available on brand new machines, with full certified drivers, and Novell does not have a client. It doesn’t matter how great your operating system is, or how great your desktop management is, if it doesnt work till 7-8 months after the production version went to the hardware manufacturers.
And please dont give me the bleeding edge rubbish, Vista been in beta so long I dont think any one in IT hadnt seen it before launch.
You guys must have some idea how many customers you lose every time you do this,
add another one.
Ron Hovsepian, if your out there, this more than any other thing your organisation does, makes it impossible for IT managers to keep defending choosing Novell.
sadly
Graham Hickson
Hi Graham,
You’ve made some good points, however it is not as cut and dried as it seems. Novell have been working with Microsoft for quite some time on what Windows ‘Vista’ would actually look like from an applications perspective. Vista has undergone a large number of radical changes over the last two years. Some of the changes have been so extreme that it put us back to square one in some instances.
The Client interacts with Windows Vista in several different areas not just one. The client interacts with the login process, networking (discovery, protocol etc.), desktop, explorer, tray and other areas. Plus we now have a new wrinkle with producing a 64-bit client as well as 32-bit.
Novell is unique in that the client interacts with ALL of these parts of the Vista desktop not just one of them. I can understand the frustration being felt, and I share some of that myself. Simply put what the desktop looks like, belies the complexity of the changes underneath and particularly with regards to the graphical login, security features and 64-bit.
I could (quite easily) have rushed out a client just to get something in the market but decided not to do that. I want to focus on a client that not only works as everyone expects, fits in with new Vista UI and dialogs and also does not affect any of the new security features built in as well. This takes a long time and takes a lot of testing and it means that the client gets shipped when its ready.
Thanks for the reply Jason, I appreciate it, I also appreciate the complexity you have of dealing with a moving target in terms of Microsofts changes to Vista, not to mention the task of creating a client.
Unfortunately that’s difficult to explain to people who believe you can put a desktop on a desk press a button and its ready to go (we’ve all got them).
Yesterdays anger has moved to a genuine sadness, I have supported Novell since my first install of Novell386, but as I write I’m sitting in my office, without a client or desktop management that works on the one thing everyones talking about, and I’m faced with a horrible choice……..
Anyway good luck with the client, and with Zenworks, Novell makes great products, I just wish…………you get the idea.
OpenSUSE 10.2
Novell is touting the benefits of OpenSUSE 10.2 but we’re still waiting for the Novell client. I realize the free version of OpenSUSE 10.2 isn’t supported, however, it didn’t take five months for you to put out the client for OpenSUSE 10.1.
Windows XP and Windows Vista have a client, even if the Vista client is in beta.
When can we expect the OpenSUSE 10.2 client for Linux?
Can we get an explanation for the delay?
OpenSUSE 10.2
Novell client for Linux
Please provide an update on the release date for the Novell Client for Linux for openSUSE 10.2. We’ve been waiting for close to four months for a new client and there isn’t any mention of when it will be released.
Is it being worked on? Problems with the new 10.2 architecture? Anything to let us know that we’re not sitting here and wasting our time for something that could take another four to five months.
If we could be provided with regular updates on the progress it would be greatly appreciated.
I do have to say a client for 10.2 as well as vista will would be nice. I have 80 computers that will be loaded with vista arriving in June. I really hope they can login to my network.