Novell has just launched a podcast site we call Novell Open Audio. This will focus primarily on technical level discussions with product managers, engineers and others involved in Novell's product development. Ted Haeger, who heads up Novell's user community efforts, is the host. The first podcast includes a look at iFolder with Brady Anderson and Calvin Gaisford and an update on Novell Linux Desktop from Guy Lunardi. Upcoming planned topics include Samba, Banshee and Novell Identity Manager. Needless to say, we're looking for input on what folks would like to hear about. There's a mechanism on the site to provide feedback. We hope people find this a good, user-friedly way to get information on things Novell.
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Podcasts are a great way for Novell to get their message across. However don't forget, you still need a way to get these podcasts beyond your existing customers that go to your site.
Eric Hanson: We have David Reveman queued up for an interview soon. He'll give us the scoop on Xgl.
Mark Nielsen: We're not really trying to get a "message" across through the Novell Open Audio podcast. At least, not so much a marketing message. We focus on providing deeper technical insight into Novell. Our target audience is the Novell user community, and Linux and open source enthusiasts. Over the next couple weeks, our program will be listed in the various podcast directories. More info on where we are headed with the show can be found at http://reverendted.blogspot.com.
Whats the chances of getting a podcast on the future of Netware…If the future looks bleak, what would the migration from OES-NW to OES-Linux be?
Jay: In fact, our next edition will have Jason Williams telling all about NetWare/OES. I'm trying to get that out tomorrow.
Ted,
Will this talk about sticking with NetWare or how to convert *from* NetWare to Linux? Will it articulate NetWare's future in an unambiguous way or tow the company line?
Thanks!
I'd like to hear a state of the union about Novell's work on X Windows and its relationship with the X development community.
We are looking at Novell for the first time since their improving support for Linux and hopefully increasing level of support for Mac means a whole new level of interoperability between our Windows, Mac, and Linux desktops. Hopefully your podcasts will talk a bit about Novell's view of Mac support in the future (which from internet reading seems to have a history of on and off support) as well as OES 2. Having a networking solution that "just works" out of the box for a company needing to administrate users over three operating systems and not having to play with LDAP schemas and registry settings would be ideal. Looking forward to seeing the progress on NLD 10.
Ted,
It's been a week – could you please answer the question posted at #6?
Why is it so hard for anyone at Novell to tell the general public what's going on with NetWare??
Will you be fired if you say anything? Will the Mafia take you for a ride? What's going on, fellas?
I thought that they already indicated that "NetWare the kernel" was going away and "Netware the toolset" will be kept an will run on Linux. I think the bigger question is if there is a compatibility layer in the works to allow unported executables to run on Linux.
Further to my last comment I am pretty sure I read somewhere that the entire Netware feature set (minus IPX which will not be supported) will be available in OES 2 and that OES 2 will have a Netware kernel to Linux kernel migration tool. Hopefully the podcasts will confirm that.
Duane – We've tried to answer your NetWare questions the best we can in this forum. I'm sorry that our answers haven't been satisfactory. But there's not a lot more we can say beyond what we've said before. Thanks.
Bruce,
What of the NetWare developers? Will their NLMs be able to run on OES 2? My customers several NetWare products that they don't want to have to re-purchase all over again for OES, as the cost would be prohibitive.
A few customers of mine have begun to plan to move to Windows from NetWare, as they don't have Linux support on staff (and I'm not Linux Certified) and it is easier for them to expand their Microsoft staff than have them acquire new skill sets in Linux.
Why? Because of no clear vision by the manufacturer (Novell) as to Novell's plans for NetWare, a technology in which they've invested years. For example, Novell once claimed to support IPX "for the next one hundred years", yet OES-Linux does not support IPX.
Sorry if you feel I'm harping on this, but there is no clear message – nothing to demonstrate how this will work, how it affects current IPX-based networks, what the migration plans are, what the migration would even look like, even conceptually – that people can confidently look at and be satisfied that their current Netware investment is protected and the eventual forced migration to Linux is going to be relatively painless.
Even if Novell comes out with a "magic pill" during BrainShare/LinuxWorld, it is too late for some. Too bad Novell felt that a veil of secrecy over NetWare was necessary.
I could go on and on, but I'll stop now.
Getting Linux Certified would be of more value than MS certified at this point don't you think? MS certified people are all over the place and are a dime a dozen (and their "expertise" at point and click and ability to enhance the performance of the OS is worth about as much). I really don't understand an IT department which has found value in sticking with Novell all these years switching to Win2003 server now when most of its technology has been around for 5 or more years. IT departments that don't see the value in "Netware the toolset and secure OS" should have switched to WinNT/2000/2003 a long time ago, not now that there is an actual future for growth in the toolset as it runs on the rapidly expanding Linux platform.
The real question that should be asked centers around NLMs on Linux, the portability of existing code to Linux, etc. Customers developing on NetWare now and in the recent past should be given some idea of whether or not it is "throw away" work. But why run to Win2003 if that question hasn't been answered? NLMs aren't going to work in Win2003 for sure… at least there is a possibility they will continue to work on OES 2.
John,
Certainly being Linux Certified is a good thing. Novell is now facing what Microsoft has been faced with (and overcome) – more certified engineers than the competitor.
When CNE's came out, it was a big deal and a great thing. CNEs by default were certified for a longer time than MCPs/MCNEs, thus were more proficient and prolific. It was easy demanding a higher salary.
Now there are more MCNEs than Novell Certified Linux Engineers (CLEs). By default, they have more experience and value. Novell has a big task ahead of them in getting the CLEs to have the same level of respect that CNEs used to enjoy.
You've hit it – there are so many that companies may feel it cheaper and easier to just go with Microsoft with an already-experienced support person than a go with Novell Linux and have to go out and either find that experience or spend thousands to get someone educated in it (and hope they don't jump ship).
It's a catch-22 and I wish Novell the best.
Regarding the coding issues, if Novell were to have stuck with their earlier promise to port MONO onto NetWare, then products like iFolder 3 would work with NetWare. Many developers are pretty ticked off at Novell and the lack of communication with regards to their current work and if it is indeed, "throw-away work" as you pointedly put it.
Novell's "wait until BrainShare" mentality is causing much more stress and lost revenue than it may be worth. This year is not like others. and Novell still hasn't "got it".
Maybe the recent posted loss of revenue and stock drop will wake them up a bit. Who knows?
Going to Win2003 from NetWare costs more and delivers less. A well tuned Linux box outperforms a Win2003 box with ease and there are many benchmarks out there to prove it. I have a rack of servers in a locker hosting web applications and database servers and the servers are so stable that my passcard has expired multiple times because they assumed I no longer needed access to the server room it had been so long since I went in there. A linux server can be tuned much more than a Win2003 server can because you can change recompile options and recompile the whole OS. Good luck doing that on Win2003. By the time you factor in all the time dealing with patches (MS reboot of the week), downtime, performance issues, and costs such as hardware and software I highly doubt there would be savings switching to Win2003. Also a transition from NetWare to Win2003 means relearning a lot more than the OS for NCPs that are not MCSEs or MCNEs… you need to relearn the entire networking and groupware toolset. Companies are installing Linux servers because they are cheaper and perform better on equal hardware. If there is any company out there experiencing slower performance and greater downtime on their Linux boxes as compared to Win2003 then they would be in the minority I am sure. Companies need to get over the fear of the unknown that is Linux and start doing a side by side comparison of costs. I know where the results of that analysis led our company.
Regarding the stock price… wait till Brainshare and the summer months when SLES 10, NLD 10, and OES 2 comes out. When new releases are a few months away sales go down as some companies wait for the new version.