Comments on: The Future of Identity Management Is Pull? http://www.novell.com/prblogs/the-future-of-identity-management-is-pull/ News and commentary about Novell Fri, 03 May 2013 12:04:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: xargs http://www.novell.com/prblogs/the-future-of-identity-management-is-pull/comment-page-1/#comment-223154 xargs Sat, 18 Sep 2010 21:17:24 +0000 http://www.novell.com/prblogs/?p=2821#comment-223154 To a certain degree a lot of apps do use a pull method when using a directory server such as AD. More granular permissions can then be mapped on to groups within AD. Or perhaps I'm not familiar with the use cases being talked about here.

That being said, it seems like the bigger issue with IdM is that it's not integrated with the business process, and exists as its own niche industry for some reason. Why can't this just be collapsed into say BPM?

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]]> By: shrdlu http://www.novell.com/prblogs/the-future-of-identity-management-is-pull/comment-page-1/#comment-214027 shrdlu Fri, 06 Aug 2010 14:35:31 +0000 http://www.novell.com/prblogs/?p=2821#comment-214027 I think the pull model could work IF the applications are allowed to write their own (individually labeled) attributes to a central identity store. They could also agree to use other applications' attributes if the business rules align.

]]> By: Johannes Ernst’s Blog » Push vs. Pull in identity — sounds familiar? http://www.novell.com/prblogs/the-future-of-identity-management-is-pull/comment-page-1/#comment-213724 Johannes Ernst’s Blog » Push vs. Pull in identity — sounds familiar? Thu, 05 Aug 2010 21:02:55 +0000 http://www.novell.com/prblogs/?p=2821#comment-213724 [...] blogosphere is buzzing over Bob Blakley's recent presentation at the Gartner/Burton Catalyst conference. The issue [...]

]]> By: Richard Baker http://www.novell.com/prblogs/the-future-of-identity-management-is-pull/comment-page-1/#comment-213467 Richard Baker Tue, 03 Aug 2010 16:50:37 +0000 http://www.novell.com/prblogs/?p=2821#comment-213467 Unfortunately I was not able to attend Bob's presentation, but pull technologies are already available as emerging standards. Take a look at http://www.sifinfo.org. This is a set of standards that are being adopted within some education establishments. This provides the option for a service provider to pull information from an identity or provisioning provider. When I first engaged with the education market I was challenegd by the approach as I came from the enterprise space I originally thought that push was best for timeliness and integration with legacy apps. But applications do exist that can operate in a pull world, either in a batch mode or real time. It comes back to the business and operational requirements. If you need to manage the update of 1M records for the start of a school year this is a very different problem to nightly enterprise churn. It may also provide some insight into ways that companies might manage M&A. As with most options a middle way often brings advantages.

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